Log in

No account? Create an account
Erp. - Touched by his noodly appendage
August 2009
Thu, Jun. 4th, 2009 03:09 pm


Erica L. Satifka
Thu, Jun. 4th, 2009 10:28 pm (UTC)
Re: This sort of relates. You might find it interesting.

I started following a vegetarian diet in March of last year, lacto-ovo, not a label reader, so pretty lax about it. Before then I was eating meat pretty much daily. Early this year I decided to start eating fish and chicken again. The main reason is that I started having stomach problems that, while probably not directly the result of vegetarianism, were slightly alleviated by occasional meat (although not cured, as is clear from my latest journal posts). My diet was pretty healthy if a little carb-heavy, and while I could try to work around it or consult a nutritionist, I guess I didn't care enough to do that. The reason I gave up meat was to save money and learn to enjoy a wider variety of food, and I did that: before the vegetarian experiment I ate almost no vegetables, and now I eat most of them. (Fruit, though, is still tricky business.) I also eat vegetarian most of the time at home, and no red meat or pork. If it turns out I have bowel disease, I will probably have to eat even more meat and cut down on my beloved carbs, which pains me, but in the end I'm gonna be selfish and put my health first.

The second reason is a little vain, but I also gained 25 pounds over the last year and I think a lot of that had to do with the diet. And believe me I tried SO many different diets (not in the sense of weight loss diets but dietary PLANS) and the weight remained. When I started eating meat again I started to lose. For whatever reason, my body just does not seem to like a vegetarian diet, and while I'm sure there are work-arounds, in the end I have to listen to my body if it's screaming out for something. I just function better when I eat meat.

I also never really saw meat as a non-food. Just "food I don't eat." So I think that's part of why I found it easy to take it back.

ReplyThread Parent
Grim And Frostbitten Gay Bar
Sun, Jun. 7th, 2009 08:12 pm (UTC)
Re: This sort of relates. You might find it interesting.

I can sort of relate. When I became a vegetarian at age 13, I ate no vegetables at all. I actually didn't even eat many when I became a vegan at age 17 either (pretty much only eggplant and mushrooms). It was only after becoming a vegan I learned to love virtually every vegetable, as when I went to college there was always only one vegan option, so I either ate that or went hungry. Part of the reason I stayed vegan is because I liked my diet much more, and felt like my sense of taste became far more subtle, and I saw my older brother, once he went back to being just a vegetarian, lapse into a very cheese and carb heavy diet.

I never saw any relationship between my diet and my weight though. I was fat at 13 before and after becoming a vegetarian, lost a ton of weight at age 15, but didn't lose or gain any weight to speak of when I became a vegan at age 17. I've been roughly 10-20 pounds overweight my entire adult life.

Protein-heavy diets often work to lose weight for two reasons. One, you get dehydrated and lose water weight. Two, pure protein makes you want to gag before you eat enough to get full. I used to routinely eat nothing but plates of seitan and I felt sick after a comparably small portion. I think you'd have the same general results no matter which kind of high protein diet you ate - not that I'm saying I think you should switch of course.

An aside - you don't like fruit?!?

ReplyThread Parent
Erica L. Satifka
Mon, Jun. 8th, 2009 12:15 am (UTC)
Re: This sort of relates. You might find it interesting.

I've never liked it. I choke it down in juice form but something in either the seeds or the "flesh" squicks me out. Too gummy, maybe? I don't like gummy candy either, or gelatin. Which is really too bad because I love the taste of citrus, but orange/tangerine pulp sticks in my throat. It's the last major holdover from my picky eating days. But as long as I have access to juice and supplements I don't know if I care enough to try to psych myself out of it.

I definitely feel like my time as a vegetarian opened me up to new things, and also instilled a healthy disgust of fast food. Man, I used to eat fast food every day! Now I can't stand it. I also feel like my sense of taste has become more attuned now that every dish is not meatmeatmeat. So I hear you on the subtlety thing.

The way I understand it is that plant proteins have to go through another layer of breakdown before they can be fully digested by the body, whereas animal proteins are instantly digested. That is why animal proteins are recommended for people with bowel problems. The added process doesn't matter for most people though, and a vegetarian or plant-heavy diet is recommended for people with IBD when they are not going through flare-ups. I don't know if that's what was behind my weight gain or not. I know that my exercise program fell off this winter because it was so long and dreary.

ReplyThread Parent
Grim And Frostbitten Gay Bar
Mon, Jun. 8th, 2009 09:49 pm (UTC)
Re: This sort of relates. You might find it interesting.

Fruit is a really wide range in terms of texture though, everything from crisp (apples) to juicy (citrus, berries), to pasty (bananas). There are certain fruits which just turn my stomach though - mainly melon.

As a child I used to strain my orange juice. It was before they sold no pulp juice in the stores. Heh.

ReplyThread Parent